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Post by HomosexualGuitar on Mar 30, 2008 19:15:37 GMT 1
Hey, did anyone hear about that transsexual guy who was pregnant? A mate of mine told me and I was wonderng what you guys thought cause I've had a few people I know say it was horrible and disgusting. And I'm like 'Ok, thats a bit harsh'. And I was wondering if it was cause it was a pregnant man, or cause of a woman wanting to be a man. So.... yeah. Here's the link to the article about it: www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article966136.eceWhat do you guys think of it? Both the transsexual thing and the pregnant man thing =P Personally, if a girl wants to be a dude, its their choice in the end, right? As for being pregnant, it makes me lol as the idea of a guy giving birth but its totally cool. XD Kraig-x |
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Post by xxtokionxx on Mar 30, 2008 19:21:44 GMT 1
a guy giving birth sound cool, but wouldn't it be painful xD, well depends i guess and yeah i totally agree if a guy wants to be a woman or mother(in this case) then its up to them and its how they feel about it. i don't think it horrible or disgusting . it's breaking the imposible which i find cool about it  |
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Post by Jessikat on Mar 30, 2008 19:27:12 GMT 1
i think the whole idea is quite cool ach.
a man being pregnant is something new.
all go to him, from me (:
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Post by B.eckii ♥ on Mar 30, 2008 19:28:34 GMT 1
He'd have a c-section.
But I'm fine with it, personally.
I mean some people are born into the wrong gender, my dad's GF's daughter who's my age has recently become a male. (:
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Post by princess666anne on Mar 30, 2008 19:50:47 GMT 1
I just think it's one of those things that doesn't happen everyday, but there's nothing wrong with it It's like..... finding £20, doesn't happen everyday, ut there's nothing wrong with it  Ok, bad example, but, yeah haha |
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Post by HomosexualGuitar on Mar 30, 2008 20:27:37 GMT 1
XD I get what you mean love.
Its like having two different coloured eyes. That'd be a better example.
Kraig-x
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Post by THkidd on Mar 31, 2008 14:31:22 GMT 1
mmmmm... well tbh i find it sorta weird but not unexpected if you get what i mean... a part of me says it shouldnt happen, that its not right... but then theres like a part of me saying thats theres nothing wrong with it.... argh! confused!! -LIKE i feel sorry for the kid, i mean press/scientists/etc will STALK and HOUND that kid to death, just to see if its 'progessing normally' and whether there are any side effects. -And then of course, socially the kid might feel sorta like a freak, i mean its not everyday you see a kid going around saying ''oh yh, daddy gave birth to me, i came out of daddys anus''. All the other kids will probably be like ''Does daddy have tits aswell?'. Its not like the kid will tell them this stuff, but they will probably find out from internet searches and media sources. IT WILL HAPPEN. IT CAN HAPPEN. NOTHING WILL STOP THEM. -And in the little community/town of the kid, the people will probably all talk about him, and tell their kids about it, and he'll get teased like shit and hate his folks. BUT. -maybe the kid wont get teased, maybe theyr all open minded and nice people, maybe the kids will be really nice aswell? -lets face it, its the future- dads everywhere are gonna be giving birth soon. it'll happen. -we're living in the 21st century, we believe in aliens!! so whats a dad giving birth huh? extraordinary stuff happens all the time! sorry if i sound harsh in some of what i say, but some of the bullys wont even give 'normal' kids a break, driving them to suicide and stuff, so what about that kid? they'll probably unlease even more hell on him.. iunno.  and more than the bullys, one thing im certain about it is that the scientists will treat the child like an experiment. and thats what i feel most bad about, they will make up some new laws or whatever and stick a billion wires into the kid, and drain his blood for hormone tests. I LIE NOT. I mean, its good for the parents, now they have their own family and nothing can beat that for them, there will be loads of benifits and i bet theyv never been happier ;D. btw, im not having a go at the guy for giving birth to the kid, or being pregnant, cos every parent has the right to have a family, and nobody can take that away from them and nobody should either, and the whole point is that the kid comes into the world no matter how hes born!! But im more sorta being annoyed at the scientists/kid bullys/ social faggots. but the thing is most people will say 'the guy is pregnant' rather than saying 'the guy is having his own family'. but i guess with time its gonna be okay (Y). /lecture. |
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Post by liz on Mar 31, 2008 15:17:29 GMT 1
Honestly? I really, really don`t know what I think about this. I believe in people`s right to make choices about their own lives, and to change gender if they so wish. Everyone has the right to be happy. But I think it becomes dangerous when people talk about `the right to have a child` because where does it stop? What comes after men giving birth?! Cloning? |
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Post by HomosexualGuitar on Mar 31, 2008 18:42:19 GMT 1
I see what you mean Sal =P But lets face it, people are slowly becoming more accepting of these things, and each generation is getting better (thank god).
And Liz, TECHNICALLY its a woman giving birth still. XP I hate saying that, but the guy has a uterus. So its not as if its a ... I dunno, biological male giving birth.
Yeah, I feel mean sayihng stuff like that, but its kinda true. This will no way lead to cloning though.
Kraig-x
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Post by Romana on Mar 31, 2008 19:11:03 GMT 1
Okaaay...
I think yeah its ok that he ( im calling him he cos DUH hes a dude now.. even after this epi..). He wants the sex change, yeah he have it man, i say GAY RIGHTS FOR ALL. Oh i just remembered I wrote:
GAY RIGHTS
HOMOSEXUALS ARE GOOD
KEEP THE BALANCE.
WE SUPPORT ALL SEX-CHANGERS AND GAYS/LESBIANS.
So yeah i wrote that on loads of peices of paper and stuck them all over my school bus windows and chucked some of them out the top deck while we were going through town. And my bus driver was OK with it cos hes really cool and he doesnt mind and he actually likes homosexuals and im getting off track and im running out of breath... and breathe ouuuuuut...
Ok and Im also Ok with the guy being pregnant, I mean, what if hes pregnant? hellooooooh, we are in the flippin 20th century... I WANT A ROBOT *slaps self* BE SERIOUS YOU F TARD. Ok yeah so i like this idea, its new, soon theres gunna be a lot of people doing this, and it'll common.
basically... I AM SO OKAY WITH THIS IDEA, AND I KNOW I SOUND REALLY WIERD AND OFFENSIVE WITH THE BUS THING BUT ITS NOT, I ACTUALLY ODNE THAT COS I WAS SERIOUS AND I GOT A WHOLE GROUP OF PEOPLE DOING IT WITH ME ;D
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Post by liz on Mar 31, 2008 22:35:35 GMT 1
Yeah I totally agree with what you said Kraig - about `he` not really being a `he.` I mean, regardless of what surgery he`s had, or how the world views him, or even legal status - technically, if `he`is carrying a foetus in a womb then `he` is a woman, yeah. Surely! I don`t think this will `lead` to cloning in itself, I just mean where do you draw the line and say " this is where your `rights` are no longer relevant " Yeah, it`s totally cool that we are more accepting of different situations these days. But it also worries me that we won`t know when to say " enough " . . . . . .. Of course - on the flip side of the coin you have the other extreme, where you can argue that - like you said - she`s still a woman and at the end of the day plenty of people have surgery to modify their natural body in some way. So who can say what is `ok` and what isn`t. Really this is why I say I just don`t know. This kinda thing gives me brain freeze. My instinct tells me - live and let live. But there`s also a part of me that thinks we`re on a slippery road to someplace we really shouldn`t go . |
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Post by Mistress Snowy aka Yuki-sama on Apr 1, 2008 0:27:30 GMT 1
XD I get what you mean love. Its like having two different coloured eyes. That'd be a better example. Kraig-x Yeah, David Bowie has different coloured eyes; one's brown, one's blue. Anywayz, a man giving birth is... well, I've got nothing against it. If the woman can't get pregnant, make the guy suffer! XD But I'm actually trying to be serious here. The guy's a transgender still with his female reproduction system, so he's bound to get pregnant. He was a female in the first place so I see the possibility! I'mm pro-gay so I don't see why same-sex marriages are illegal. It's just preventing people from being truly happy and we do NOT want a world that is NOT happy because the world's populating, being unhappy, could cause the end of the world by uncontrollable amounts of suicide, and people commit suicide because they feel there's no way out of the trap they're in and they feel like they'll never be truly happy and the only way to make some people truly happy is to LEGALISE SAME-SEX MARRIAGE!!!! I mean, homosexuality was illegal 40 years ago, I mean wtf is that?! That is discrimination beyond belief. And to think the government invented Equal Rights! Bollocks, women are still treated as second-class citizens, homosexuals are being discriminated against for batting for the opposite team and transgenders, well... if they feel like they were born in the wrong body, it's up to THEM to rectify that and NO-ONE else! Religion plays a big part in discrimination because in the Bible it's been said that for man to lie with man is immoral. Who the fuck cares man?! Religion might aswell be eradicated because homosexuality won't go away. Sometimes it's in the person's DNA to bat for the opposite team, and you're trying to tell me you can prevent that?! Fack off mate! So I say leave the man to give birth to his daughter even if he does need to have a c-section. I'm sure she'll be fine, because his body was naturally female therefore she will have grown up like your average kid, she won't be some alien from Mars or something, she'll just be born from a man rather than a woman. Just because he's legally a man, that doesn't mean it's not acceptable for him to get pregnant! So in short, LEAVE HIM THE FECK ALONE!!!! |
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Post by HomosexualGuitar on Apr 1, 2008 14:57:42 GMT 1
Amen to that Snowy XD
To be perfectly honest, the NHS is really shit towards transsexuals. I read in that news thingy that the couple were shunned from a lot of places and the dude was called 'she' even he was legally male. Not good.
This world needs to stop going on the straight and narrow, and at least go on a wider road =P
Kraig-x
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Post by THkidd on Apr 1, 2008 16:38:12 GMT 1
Really this is why I say I just don`t know. This kinda thing gives me brain freeze. My instinct tells me - live and let live. But there`s also a part of me that thinks we`re on a slippery road to someplace we really shouldn`t go . i agree with liz. you have to understand that your every action will have a consequence, and each consequence will lead to another consequence, eventually esculating into something bigger. you might think that a small action you do wont lead to anything bigger, but when that small action is carried out on a mass scale, it usually leads to something bigger. -switching on a light, pretty small action when done individually, but when millions of people around the world are doing it its only contributing to global warming. -mangal pandey. soldier serving the british crompany of india or whatever. decided to to not use a gun, blah blah, triggered off a chain of events and rebellers that led to the overthrow of the british in india. -martin luther king... self-explanatory yesh? -eating a sandwich= poo= the whole sewage system youv probably got the idea now right? im not saying that the the a man being pregnant is gonna lead to human cloning... well... it wont directly lead to human cloning. but i can bet it will indirectly help lead to cloning... if you get what i mean... what i mean is that when human cloning happens (and it will.) there will have to be a build up of events that lead to it. For example, this incident of the pregnant man will lead to more guys realising that they might wanna get pregnant, and after some time facilities and medicines and stuff will be made to help those guys etc. and what with all these new methods of becoming pregnant, soon people will be stepping into some sort of era where they will be trying more and more methods of having children and cloning is very likely to be one of them. and the pregnant dude is a massive step in the 'science of conceiving' or whatever, and its gonna be a hit with the scientists aswell, and make people realise more that they should try new methods. bleurgh i cant explain what i mean, sorry, but if you understand then cool (Y). dont get me wrong, im not condemning men being pregnant or anything, but im starting to think that maybe birth should happen naturally?? but i cant justify myself properly either, because there are alot of things that arent natural like aeroplanes and stuff... but a part of me is starting to think that guys shouldnt give birth. -like the mothers womb is in many ways 'created' to host the foetus until it develops into a baby and comes out, and guys dont have that. -while in the mothers womb, the foetus grows accustomed to its 'enviroment' and when it comes out as a baby, it will be able to recognise its mother even with eyes shut. and that makes it tons easier when the baby is being breastfed by its mother. however, if the child gets breastfed by a nanny or someone who is not its mother, the baby finds it harder to acccustom itself, and sometimes will refuse to breastfeed (its happened many times before.). now if the father were to give birth to the baby, and the mother were to breastfeed it, it would be pretty unatural, and weird for the baby because its used to the father, and then has to leave its father to be fed by some unknown women, it might now take to it. i mean, babies dont usually take to unknown things very quickly. errr il use myself as an example... i know for a fact that i could recognise my mum out of the masses if i was blind, from her skin, her smell, her shape etc, her features. i guess i would have been able recognise her this way when i was baby, yes? and i would have been wary of my dad LOL. so if my dad had tried to breastfeed me, eerrr i dont think i would have taken kindly to him. yeah, i know... BAD EXAMPLE. oh and yh if people want to change gender then thats cool (Y), im fine with that! but there was this one idiot who kept changing gender and then chaging back and then changing again and he done it like 7 times! read it in a newspaper somewhere, but yh pretty stupid cos soon hes gonna damage his insides so think it through. but i would aswell classyify gender changing as natural in a way, because you naturally want to be the other gender... allow. i cant explain anything. ARGH i cant say it properly! and i cant explain myself properly its annoying. so im just gonna shut up now, its giving me a headache. |
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Post by HomosexualGuitar on Apr 1, 2008 18:52:53 GMT 1
Salma, I said this before (feeling mean saying it), the guy is TECHNICALLY a woman, meaning he had a uterus and all that. So TECHNICALLY its a woman giving birth.
But I do agree with the baby accustomed to its mother kinda thing.
As for your gender changing thing, I understand you XD and that guy was stupid, cause once you turn your stick into something else, its gonna hurt changing it back.
Kraig-x
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