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Post by liz on Apr 17, 2009 21:56:34 GMT 1
I hate reading Perez's comments as much as the next person, but think about it - he doesn't say them to get people to like him!
*Newsflash* - he enjoys p*ssing people of!
The more you react, the better for him. He doesn't care if TH fans are upset - quite the opposite.
You're just another lovely hit to his site ....
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Post by Harriet Listing? Hmm I like it on Apr 17, 2009 22:00:18 GMT 1
Never known how many comments and views this thread has had since it was started (Was it yesterday? lol)
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Post by NaomiOfC on Apr 17, 2009 23:27:28 GMT 1
It's a buzzing topic atm. Everyone's talking about it, Harriet.
I read the comments on Perez's blog, and loads of people were mentioning how he hadn't mentioned that the girl was a true fan, but a stalker who even harrassed Bill and Tom's mum.
I think that it's pretty low if it is true. And the guys have a d*mn right to be p*ssed off with the women. But on the other hand, I think Tom could've dealt with it better?
I dunno'. I just want the management to tell the place their statement.
I've heard it was supposed to happen this morning but didn't?
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Post by omgitsmollyx on Apr 17, 2009 23:41:13 GMT 1
i got told by someone who knows some german stalkers that they attack the twins' mum, and block their driveway, steal their mail, and ring their doorbell constantly through the night..
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Post by NaomiOfC on Apr 18, 2009 0:24:02 GMT 1
D:
I was talking to my friend from America about it and she said "the girl just happened to have the number to the press and what not. Hmm. I wonder if it was a set up." because apparantly the girl called the police, ambulance and the press herself.
:-\
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Post by Soubi on Apr 18, 2009 1:30:01 GMT 1
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Post by liz on Apr 18, 2009 1:35:30 GMT 1
Guys I'd like to direct you all to this news article in Bild. There still isn't any information about the specific details of the incident itself, but this will give you an idea of what's been going on previously.
We hope it will help you understand the situation a little better, and I'm sure you will feel the same sympathy for Tom and Bill ( and the people close to them ) as we do.
Be prepared, this is not pleasant!  NEWS ARTICLE HEREThis is the English translation of the article. Thanks to Susi ( Midori ) for doing that for us!
Is that why Tom Kaulitz went ballistic? Masked girls hunt “Tokio Hotel”
They’ve been chasing the rock band for months
His fans are puzzled over why he lost control over himself so much. Is there a possible explanation for his behaviour now?
Tokio Hotel guitarist Tom Kaulitz (19) went ballistic at a petrol station in Hamburg. The musician hit a young woman (21) in the face after she stubbed out a cigarette on his car. Thereupon she filed charges against the rock star.
Bild now learned: The woman is supposed to be part of a stalker gang from France. They call themselves “Les afghans on tour” (The Afghans on tour). Four girls are supposed to be part of the gang that has been following the band’s every move for half a year. The young women are mostly hooded and masked.
The stalkers allegedly also besieged the band members’ flats. They allegedly threw eggs at the musicians’ cars, wrote threatening letters and harassed family members.
In a threatening letter to “Tokio Hotel” that’s available to BILD, the girls claim that they would be more than normal fans and threaten the band with a “little nightmare” for the following week. Furthermore it says: “Attention, attention... We're unhappy. We're growing impatient. DO YOU UNDERSTAND US???”
Even the mother of Bill and Tom was allegedly threatened and assaulted by the stalker gang last week. Charges against the stalkers have been filed (reference 2009 004 57397)
Tokio Hotel’s manager and producer David Jost confirmed the incidents towards BILD:
He says: “One of those masked stalker girls assaulted a family member of Bill and Tom on 8th April. We've immediately filed charges against the girl the following day and will file more charges now.”
So, there it is guys. Basically, the boys are being terrorised. As we still don't know for sure what happened exactly, I'm not going to comment on it. But, I think it's fair to say that Tom may well have feared for his own safety and also the safety of anyone who was with him.
All we can do now is hope that these girls - I refuse to call them fans - they AREN'T - are dealt with by the police.
As before, please continue to discuss this in a sensible manner. Thank you.
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Post by NaomiOfC on Apr 18, 2009 3:49:15 GMT 1
Oh my God. That is awful! I heard they had harrassed Bill and Tom's mum but I just thought it was like, finding her house and disturbing her etc. But threatening?! That's just a new low, imo.
In all do respect, Tom was just defending himself. He knew what these girls were capable of, and if they had already started on him (the cigarette on his car thing) then he feared what she would do next.
And most of all, it was made to seem like Tom was the bad guy. He hit her in the face on purpose.
That has truly p*ssed me off now.
But that's just my own opinion.
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Post by kaulitzkitten on Apr 18, 2009 4:40:24 GMT 1
And people are wondering why the guys have been keeping a low profile for the last 4 months? Lets face it, if this is an example of the crap they have to deal with, would you want to keep putting yourself in the public eye? Maybe the time away from the the whole fame circus has put things into perspective for them. Maybe they now have a taste for normal life and dont want to come back. Cant say I'd blame them!
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Post by Mikey on Apr 18, 2009 9:39:55 GMT 1
Things certainly make more sense now. Rather terrible. I've only skimmed through it, as I'm in a hurry, but Tom's assault seems less damaging compared to these girls' actions now...
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Post by TH_Amelia on Apr 18, 2009 10:41:25 GMT 1
your totally right Naomi!
im absolutly shocked to the maximum, i mean these girls call themselves 'true fans' then they go threaten bill and toms mother!!!....would of any of us do that...HELL NO!!
im also miffed off like i know most of us are! Tom's name is probs going to go to muck now with people, it will be like...'hey you know that band tokio hotel'....'yeh with the guitarist who hits girls in it'.....naah totally wrong, if anyone put theirselves in Toms shoes...im sorry but they would of done the exact same actions as Tom....its a perfectly normal human reaction to take to someone hows been TERROISING you, and your FAMILY, i hope Tom dosn't get charged for all this, but like you say we'll have to wait it out and see what comes of this after Toms statement etc. i'm praying the outcome is on Tom's side because in my eyes hes done nothing wrong, under the circumstances anyways, im nat saying its right to go around hiting women of course not!
sorry i needed that venting, im just really shocked and OMG lol, im gunna go make a cuppa tea and calm down hahaha.
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Post by Amiee♥TH on Apr 18, 2009 11:35:50 GMT 1
I'm on Tom's side, violence or not, these boys don't deserve the nuts from these stalkers that they're getting!
Totally agree with you Liz, they're NOT fans. You're not a fan if you're constantly making the boys lives HELL!
I really don't blame Tom for hitting her, like naomi said, he was defending himself, and to be honest, if it was me, I would probably have thrown a more than just one punch at her. He probably isn't pleased with himself that he hit a girl, but she totally deserved it and apparently the female in the car with him was actually Simone? (I don't know how true that is) But if that's true then it's even more understandable why he did it.
These girls go after Andreas too.... I'd love to get out of the car at the girls.
Also, I know it was emailed to Perez by a fan cus she finds it all hilarious. Supposed to be a fan of the band and a friend of mine.
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Post by Mairi on Apr 18, 2009 11:49:56 GMT 1
That article sheds some light on why he maybe lost his temper, he was probably at the end of his tether I don't mean to sound all professor-like, but I had a lecture in forensic on stalkers last semester and I swear it was the most frightening hour I'd sat through. Alot of the time they can start off as fans but when they don't get the attention they want, they become really fixated... they can sometimes even start believing that the object of their affection is theirs and when they don't recieve the attention in return when they appear usually at their homes or hotels, in their minds, it's like a lovers rejection. It can get really twisted and they can very quickly turn abusive, usually verbally at first through letters, but it can quickly turn violent. Especially if it's a group situation, like these 5 girls... if they've all got a similar frame of mind, they're just fuelling each others distortions. Scary stuff. I think it was fear on Toms' part, and he must have been pretty damn scared to go this far. xx |
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Post by stephTH on Apr 18, 2009 11:57:48 GMT 1
Ugh. That's actually disgusted me. I agree with you Amiee, if it was me I would've hit her more. It's understandable why he did it when you take in all the facts and he is most likely not proud of himself that he hit anyone, let alone a girl.
These girls make me sick.
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Post by samtheplatypus on Apr 18, 2009 12:10:33 GMT 1
Poor Bill and Tom He might not be proud of himself but it's kinda their fault. If they weren't so creepy, he wouldn't have needed to do anything to them. Stupid stalkers >:[ Definatly not fans. |
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