Bild.de Bill & Tom [Warning re language used]

[Mairi]

WARNING: This post contains swearing and derogatory slang



Tom: Noch dazu, kommt dann das Foto. Seh’ ich das Foto von erm, von dem Typen und da hat… *hitting Bill* … der Sänger… der Sänger… Added to that there’s the photo. I see the photo of that erm, of that guy and there […] has… *hitting Bill* … the singer… the singer…
Bill *looking annoyed at him*: Der Sänger geht gar nicht! The singer is an absolute no-no!
Tom: … ist soooo schwul, ey … is soooo gay, ey.
Bill: Der Sänger is’ so’n Mädchen! Der Sänger is’ so’n Mädchen. The singer is such a girl! The singer is such a girl.
Tom: Der hat ja nun… der hat ja nun beim letzten Album… der hat ja nun, der hat ja nun bei seinem letzten, erm erm… mit seiner letzten Frisur hier hat er ja schon irgendwie die Strähne dann im Gesicht und erm, geschminkt und alles. Now he’s got… for the last album he’s now… now he’s got […] with his last, erm, erm… for his last hairstyle he already had that strand [of hair] in his face somehow and erm, wearing make-up and all.
Bill: Und dann seine Yukka-Palmenfrisur, also. And his yucca palm hairstyle, like.
Tom: Ja, da sah er ja aus wie, wie’n Mädchen, ne? Also komplett wie ’ne Frau und jetzt, mittlerweile braucht man da ’n neues Wort für, finde ich. Das ist einfach nur noch… Yes, back then he looked like, like a girl, right? Like totally like a woman and by now one needs a new word for it, I think. That’s simply just…
Bill: Schwuchtel. Faggot.
Tom: … Schw-… Schwuchtel, peinlich, Frau, irgendwas dazwischen. Das ist irgendwie… das kann man gar nicht mehr definieren. Ich find’d so erbärmlich. Fa-… Faggot, embarrassing, woman, something in between. Somehow that’s… one can’t even define that anymore. I think it’s so pathetic.
Bill: Und der komische, kleine Spinner mit seinen Dreadlocks ist so’n richtiger kleiner Voll-Assi. Hat noch nie gefickt in seinem Leben. Erzählt die ganze Zeit nur Scheiße. And that weird, little oddball with his dreadlocks is really a complete chav [uncivilised]. Has never fucked in his life. Just talks shit all the time.
Tom: Das ist das Geilste. Das ist das Geilste. Noch nie gefickt in seinem Leben. Und wenn er mal gefickt hat, dann hat vielleicht irgendwie so ein, zwei erm, erm 16-jährige… maximal! Und erzählt den ganzen Tag von Frauen, von Frauenheld irgendwie. That’s the best. That’s the best. Never fucked in his life. And if he’s ever fucked, then maybe somehow like one, two erm, erm 16-year-olds… at most! And all day long [he] talks about women, about [being a] womaniser somehow.
Bill: Und die anderen beiden… die sowieso gar nichts zu melden haben… And the other two… the ones that don’t have a say anyway…
Tom: Gregor, Gregor und Günther irgendwie… Gregor, Gregor and Günther like…
*Bill laughing*
Tom: Also die beiden erm, die versenden sich ja sowieso komplett irgendwie, im Bild. Well, those two, erm, somehow they completely get lost in the picture anyway.
Bill: Also, wenn ich die Flasche gehabt hab’, dann hätt’ ich da aber da… ordentlich mehr zugehauen. Also… Well, if I would’ve had that bottle, then I would’ve […] there… hit harder. Well…
Tom: Ich hätt’… ich hätt’ noch mal drauf gehauen. I would’ve… I would’ve hit [him] once more.
Bill: Ich auch. Me too.
Tom: Abgehobene Vollidioten sind das. They’re morons with their heads in the clouds.

Tom: Also, ich fand diese Mädchenband ja früher schon scheiße. Und mittlerweile ist es einfach nur noch erm, also… die übertrumpfen sich ja von Tag zu Tag. Die werden immer… Well, I thought that girly band was already shit back in the day. And by now it’s simply just, erm, well… they outdo themselves from day to day. They become more and more…
Bill: … hässlicher. …uglier.
Tom: … abstrakter. Hässlicher. Und das Geilste, find’ ich ja, dass die sich vollkommen überschätzen. Die haben für nichts… für nichts… die können nichts und haben Millionen gescheffelt. … more abstract. Uglier. I just think the best thing is that they totally over-estimate themselves. They’ve got nothing for… for nothing… they can’t do anything and have raked in millions.
Bill: Die machen sich richtig die Taschen voll. They really fill their pockets.
Tom: Machen sich richtig die Taschen voll… hier irgendwie der kleine Spinner… Really fill their pockets… here, like that little weirdo…
Bill: Und leisten nichts dafür. Die fahren den ganzen Tag durch die Gegen in ihren fetten Autos. And don’t do anything for it. All day long they drive around in their big-ass cars.
Tom: … mit den fetten Karren. Mit ihren fetten Karren, irgendwie und… ... with their big-ass rides. With their big-ass rides somehow and…
Bill: Mit fetten Ferraris, mit zwei fetten, roten Ferraris. With big-ass Ferraris, with two big-ass, red Ferraris.

Bill: Und der Spinner mit seinen komischen… wie heißt’enn der noch mal hier? Hier, Tom und sein dämlicher Schwuchtelbruder. Die sind so asozial. And that oddball with his weird… what’s he called again just now? Here, Tom and his dopey faggot brother. They’re so despicable.
Tom: Ja, die sind so asozial. Yes, they’re despicable.
Bill: Sind zwei so Spacken, ey. Both of them are such spazzes, ey.
Tom: Und jetzt haben se… haben se ’nen coolen neuen Look. And now they’ve got… got a cool new look, ey.
Bill: Cool. Sehen jetzt noch cooler aus als vorher, ey. Cool. Now they’re looking cooler than before, ey.
Tom: Ey aso-…Ey despic -…
Bill: Die seh-… sehen einfach nur aus wie ’ne Scheißschwuchtel. They lo-… they just look like a fucking faggot.
Tom: Schwuchteln. Wie die letzten Schwuchteln irgendwas… also… das ist ja… Dafür brauchste… die brauchen […] dafür. Faggots. Like the last faggots something… well… that’s just… For that you’d need… they need […] for that.
Bill: Ich mein’, früher ging’s halt noch. Jetzt sieht er einfach nur noch richtig scheiße aus. I mean, in the past it was kind of alright. Now, he’s simply only looking real shit.

Bill: … und verpissen sich hier. … and piss off from here.
Tom: Im Ausland… im Ausland unterwegs sein. Jaaaa. Im Ausland unterwegs sein. Abroad… being on the road abroad. Yeeees. Being on the road abroad.
Bill: Ihr seid so cool, ey. You’re just so cool, ey.
Tom: Geil. Awesome.
Bill: Ihr seid so international. Ey, halt doch die Fresse. Das sind so ’ne Scheiß-Assis, ey. You’re so international. Ey, just shut your face. Those are such fucking chavs [uncivilised], ey.
Tom: So… also… Such… well…
Bill: Und wer das hört, das sind für mich nur so kleine Spastis. And who hears that, those are just little retards to me.
Tom: Die haben sich verändert und das… das ist für mich nur die Bestätigung: durch Geld verändern sich Menschen. They have changed and that’s… that’s just a confirmation for me that money changes people.
Bill: Ja. Yes.
Tom: Das ist für mich einfach: sobald die ’n bisschen Kohle haben, verändern die sich irgendwie und das ist, also wie gesagt… To me, that’s just like: as soon as they’ve got a bit of dosh, they’re somehow changing and that’s, well like I said…
Bill: Und wie die sich selber verunstalten. Sie sehen die denn jetzt aus?! And the way they deface themselves. Just what are they looking like now?!

Bill: Pfft.
Tom: Das Geile ist ja immer, dass die sagen sie haben keinen Stylisten. Ich finde, sie sollten sich mal ’nen Stylisten zulegen. The best thing is always how they say they don’t have a stylist. I think they should just get themselves a stylist.
Bill: Ja. *laughing* Yes. *laughing*
Tom: Weil so wie die… wie die… *laughing*… so wie die rumrennen, das ist einfach… *laughing* Das ist einfach komplett lächerlich. Because the way they… the way they… *laughing* … like the way they walk around, that’s just… *laughing*
Bill: Peinlich. Peinlich. Embarrassing. Embarrassing.
Tom: Peinlich. Absolut peinlich. Stell dir vor die Typen rennen auf der Straße rum. Embarrassing. Absolutely embarrassing. Imagine those guys walking down the street.
Bill: Den würde ich… That guy, I’d […] him…
Tom: Stell dir das mal vor. Just imagine it.
Bill: Bill, den würde ich… gern mal so richtig wegatzen. Den würde ich gern mal so richtig wegatzen. Bill, that guy […] I’d… like to really wipe off the face of the earth. I’d like to really wipe him off the face of the earth once.
Tom: Richtig weghauen. So richtig weghauen. Really thrust [him] away. Like really thrust [him] away.
Bill: Richtig ins Gesicht rotzen und wegatzen. Really snot in his face and wipe [him] off the face of the earth.
Tom: Anspucken würde ich ihn gern mal. I’d like to spit at him once.
Bill: Ey.
Tom: Für seine hässliche Visage. For his ugly mug.
Bill: Ja. Diese Fotze. Yes. That cunt.
Tom: Wie rennt der denn rum, ey? Just what is he walking around like, ey?
Bill: Fotze. Cunt.
Tom: Mit Schminke. Mit Schminke im Gesicht! Als Typ! Voll… With make-up. With make-up in his face! Being a guy! Totally…
*Bill laughing*
Tom: Komplett zugeschminkt gerade. Das ist so lächerlich, ey. Just totally caked in make-up right now. That’s so ridiculous, ey.
Bill: Lächerlich. Ridiculous.
Tom *whispering*: Ja. Yes.
*silence*
*twins bursting into laughter*


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This amused me. There are no English subs but the translation is in the info section. They're just poking fun at the themselves lol

[Amiee♥TH]

I watched this this morning, hilarious, especially the way they talk, I was amused for at least 20mins XD

[Helen Therese Sunniva]

AHAAA XD love it XD hahahaha
i'm actually crying from laughter...
"Gregor and Günther or something" ahaaaaa XD

[NaomiOfC]

hahahahha.
their laugh at the end :')

[Holly x]

HAAAA! Hilarious.
Toms face at the end just before they laugh. Priceless ;')

[midori]

I edited the start post with a full translation and put a warning re the language. Please take the warning seriously.

[JessicaNyappy:3]

Hahaha i watched this morning when i was feeling ill and i didnt want to go to school
Cheered me up so much i was so happy all day
=D I love them <3<3

[Mairi]

Oh my... talk about potty mouths ! lol

[B.eckii ♥]

Normally the word "faggot" doesn't effect me at all, but the way they have used it so flippantly really offended me. :/ I think it's because it's almost as if they're saying it as if it's okay to use it. Now I really don't know what to think because being bisexual, I'd be classed as "faggot," or a "half-fag," or whatever.. And that really irks me how often they used that word; whether in jest or not it's offensive and making it seem as if it's okay to use just is not good at all... I dunno what to think now, I really don't.

I'm kinda disappointed tbh.

[CharChar93]

That may just be the way it's translated though, I mean, it might not be so bad in German, is it Susi?
Obviously I'm not sure, but I know in Spanish they use language that would be unnacceptable in English daily because they view it as ok.

[midori]

I've had a massive discussion with Claire yesterday and it's actually tiring as to what degree you could analyze this whole video.

It made me really uncomfortable when I watched it the first times (yes, plural) and believe me I've watched it many times to work out that transcript. That word is bad and it's also in Germany. Thing is though, it's the most commonly used word when people talk about Bill. It can also be used casually and ironic and some people do but nonetheless. That's almost besides the point. It's still bad. However, as this was a rant about what people say about them it would be the most used because as I said people use it for Bill frequently. Remember his Vanity Fair article/interview last year? The adjective of that word was used in the introduction to describe how people refer to and see Bill. I'm not kidding you when I say that I had a 20-minute discussion with Claire the day I was translating it just to work out how to do it best and bring across how it was meant. So yes, Vanity Fair chose to also mention it and it's not just a tabloid magazine or anything.
If you look for a translation of that word you'll end up with quite a list of translation options and they all have a different nuance to them. Sometimes it upsets me that people often don't pay attention to nuances when they do translations. Lots of stuff gets lost because of it (which is also why I take quite a long time for my translations). I got really upset when the f-word got used for the subtitles of the Goldene Kamera speech and I've always said that because Bill did not use the word there and I strongly believe he never would have. Thing is people use it quite flippantly often and just put it in translations or subtitles because it's the "most common".

For this video here, there would've been other options to translate it but in this case this whole rant was vicious and therefore the f-word was the right choice because it's not only often used for Bill but also it's one of the most vicious words. The whole video and its rant is about all the hateful and spiteful things people say about TH and Bill to hurt them and to (try and) put them down.

To be honest, I wouldn't actually have posted it. Not just because of the language and because it's uncomfortable... it feels like there is more to it. However, it was already posted everywhere etc and I just felt that this is a bit too much to just have some loose translation and subtitles with gaps (even the subtitled video on Bild.de doesn't really cut it) so I thought that if people watch it so much anyway, they should know as much details of what was said/translated as possible.
Many fans find it funny which is ok, I think, for me it's just not that. I adore the laughter in the end and Bill's laugh when Tom mentions the make-up. That saved this video for me. I'm getting used to it as well but there's still a feeling I can't shake.

Also, I realize that the f-word is not a good one to use. I really wouldn't have if it hadn't been how it was intended and to come back to the German word. Yes, it's also derogatory even if it's not always used like that. Sadly though it usually is when it comes to Bill and also sadly I can only say that it doesn't even shock me anymore when people call him that because I'm used to it. It's just such a common thing for people to call him. He probably hears it more often than any person should. Not that anybody should ever hear it but I guess you know what I mean.

I know it might shock and disappoint some people how he seemingly uses it without much thought in that video. Claire said she feels anger in this whole rant and I agree that there seems to be more to it. He also used the word a few times elsewhere. I think maybe it's also him being a bit stubborn... mentioning how people call him that, showing that he's aware of it (how could he not be) and using it to show that they can't hurt him the way they want to (even if that might not be entirely true underneath it all).

To be honest, you could analyze/overthink any of this to death and still wouldn't know what is really going on inside of them.

[B.eckii ♥]

That maybe so, but the context in which it was used by them is in an insulting manner. :/

[Mairi]

I actually can't believe how naive I was to just take a video from youtube that obviously had some bad language in it and take the transcript as solid fact when it wasn't from a source that I knew. I am sorry about that guys, I should have forwarded the vid to Susi first, especially since I am not a German speaker.

Sorry again everyone! I've learned a lesson from this.

[B.eckii ♥]

Bloody hell, Susi, that was a post of epic proportions! Yes, I agree, it made me feel quite uncomfortable watching it, and yeah.. the laughter at the end is the only good point about it. I mean, fair enough, they're making fun of themselves in the eyes of those who are against them but I think it was a step too far for them, if you get what I'm saying?

Some things shouldn't be in the tabloids, especially when it can make things look okay. The fact is, some people may find it funny to watch and stuff, but others (like me, for example) won't especially when they've had that word thrown at them. Blahhh. I think Claire's right, despite how flippant about it and how funny they're trying to make it seem, I reckon there's anger behind it and something else as well. But I guess we'll never know.

*shrugs*

And Mairi, don't worry too much about it; it would've got here anyway and be posted by someone else. (: *hugs*

[Mairi]

It definately was, with alot of good points made by Susi, Claire and yourself

It's horrible to think that they've had these things said to them and about them I avoid hater sites, articles and comments at all costs so I'm also naive when it comes to that side of things, it's like I simply blot it all out to the point that I forget that people can also be very negative about them... I remember the utter shock I felt when I saw Perez's comment about Bill, I remember thinking "wha...?? someone doesn't like them?? " lol. So when you think of it that way, in terms of the guys actually having language like this thrown at them, that just shocks me to the core

Thanks for the hugs Beckii *hugs back*